Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/26/1999 03:25 PM House L&C

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CSSB 51(L&C) - LICENSING OF COSMETOLOGISTS                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0651                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG announced the committee's next order of business                                                              
is CSSB 51(L&C), "An Act relating to barbers, hairdressers,                                                                     
manicurists, and cosmetologists; providing that the only                                                                        
qualification necessary for licensure as a manicurist, other than                                                               
payment of fees, is completion of a class that is 12 hours in                                                                   
duration, addresses relevant health, safety, and hygiene concerns,                                                              
and is offered through a school approved by the Board of Barbers                                                                
and Hairdressers; and providing for an effective date."  The                                                                    
chairman requested that Representative Brice provide the                                                                        
subcommittee report on SB 51 [subcommittee: Representatives Brice                                                               
(chair), Murkowski and Cissna].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0674                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE moved to adopt the proposed Version K House                                                                
committee substitute (CS) for CSSB 51(L&C) as the working document                                                              
before the committee.  Version K was labeled 1-LS0378\K,                                                                        
Lauterbach, 4/21/99.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG asked if there were any objections.  There being                                                              
none, Version K was adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said the subcommittee looked at a number of                                                                
issues, primarily some of the concerns raised by the chairman                                                                   
relating to competency testing and postsecondary education loans.                                                               
In Sections 3 and 6 of Version K, the subcommittee addressed the                                                                
question of testing for the course.  It has been clarified that a                                                               
test can be administered by the school, not the state, to show                                                                  
completion of the 12-hour course.  In Section 10, some superfluous                                                              
language relating to credential investigation fees was deleted.  No                                                             
one charges or administers credential investigation fees so that                                                                
was removed from the legislation.  Additionally, an Alaska-licensed                                                             
hairdresser does manicure work as part of that hairdresser's                                                                    
license, sometimes in the range of 200 to 300 hours, and is tested                                                              
for competency in that area as part of state regulation.  The                                                                   
subcommittee thought it was a bit redundant to require these people                                                             
who have gone above and beyond the provisions of the 12-hour                                                                    
manicurist's course to go back and obtain a manicurist's license                                                                
after receiving the hairdresser's license.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG confirmed from Representative Brice that is                                                                   
already in the requirements for hairdressers.  The chairman                                                                     
questioned how many hours are included within the hairdresser's                                                                 
[license].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0796                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE answered that some schools are from 200 to 300                                                             
hours, here in Alaska.  In order to receive a hairdresser's                                                                     
license, an individual must successfully complete 15 [manicure]                                                                 
applications.  This is a standard established in regulation.                                                                    
Therefore, Representative Brice noted, the Board of Barbers and                                                                 
Hairdressers has recognized through the hairdresser requirements                                                                
and regulations the importance of manicurists and ensuring that                                                                 
they are adequately trained.  Representative Brice indicated                                                                    
Section 13 clarifies that the 12-hour basic health, safety and                                                                  
hygiene course should be geared toward the concerns of the                                                                      
manicurist as well as the customer because the manicurist is the                                                                
one exposed to the chemicals and the dust.  He indicated the dust                                                               
can cause "white lung."  Additionally, the subcommittee attempted                                                               
to clarify in Version K that the manicurist's license does not show                                                             
competency, it only shows course completion in health, hygiene, and                                                             
safety issues.  Representative Brice emphasized it was a big                                                                    
concern not to provide a statement that an individual has shown or                                                              
passed any competency requirements to practice manicuring.  The                                                                 
license should say the individual has completed a 12-hour course on                                                             
health, safety, and hygiene for both the manicurist and the                                                                     
customer.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0905                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG confirmed the hairdressers are the only ones                                                                  
exempted from the 12-hour course.  He further confirmed that anyone                                                             
else currently practicing manicuring is required to take the                                                                    
12-hour course.  The chairman confirmed from Representative Brice                                                               
that was one of the Senate's intention and is a positive note in                                                                
terms of the transition.  Chairman Rokeberg questioned if the                                                                   
hairdressers are grandfathered in for the 12 hours of health                                                                    
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE answered in the affirmative; hairdressers are                                                              
grandfathered in for the 12 hours because that training takes place                                                             
within the core curriculum of hairdressing.  However, no one else                                                               
is exempted.  Representative Brice indicated state licensure,                                                                   
showing that a person has successfully completed a course in                                                                    
health, safety and hygiene concerns, will be required for the                                                                   
practice of manicure.  He further indicated the penalty in Version                                                              
K for failure to complete the 12-hour course and obtain licensure                                                               
is a violation enforceable by the Department of Environmental                                                                   
Conservation (DEC).  Representative Brice noted the quality of the                                                              
12-hour course was not addressed by the subcommittee.  That is the                                                              
core policy argument the chairman is currently aware of:  Is it                                                                 
possible to teach health, safety, and hygiene concerns as they                                                                  
relate to manicure in 12 hours?  The subcommittee did not arrive at                                                             
a consensus on this point.  Representative Brice said his feeling                                                               
is anything less than 50 or 60 hours is "pretty much just blowing                                                               
in the wind."  He recognized the sponsor's desire to keep the                                                                   
length of time to a bare minimum, which resulted in the 12 hours.                                                               
However, the course still does not address application or more than                                                             
12 hours worth of the importance of health, safety, and hygiene                                                                 
concerns.  That is the one major outstanding issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE indicated the subcommittee had spoken with                                                                 
Diane Barrans, Executive Director, Alaska Commission on                                                                         
Postsecondary Education (ACPE), Department of Education ["student                                                               
loans"].  Ms. Barrans had informed the subcommittee that the                                                                    
minimum length of a program to meet eligibility requirements for a                                                              
student loan is generally six weeks.  Therefore, this program would                                                             
not be eligible for student loans.  Representative Brice explained                                                              
he believes some of the reasons the subcommittee did not address                                                                
competency and the length of the course were because the                                                                        
legislation's title is fairly strictly written.  [CSSB 51(L&C),                                                                 
"... providing that the only qualification necessary for licensure                                                              
as a manicurist, other than payment of fees, is completion of a                                                                 
class that is 12 hours in duration, addresses relevant health,                                                                  
safety, and hygiene concerns, and is offered through a school                                                                   
approved by the Board of Barbers and Hairdressers ...."].                                                                       
Representative Brice said that he did not necessarily want to come                                                              
back with a recommendation which would create title problems                                                                    
although he believes, as a full committee, they do want to address                                                              
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1073                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG thanked the subcommittee for its work and                                                                     
confirmed the committee had no questions.  The chairman commented                                                               
he has been in communication with the bill sponsor, Representative                                                              
Brice and other interested parties.  Chairman Rokeberg said, "It                                                                
appears that the requirements of less than six weeks and there's                                                                
some timing there, we thought about coming up with something that                                                               
-- there is a 30-hour weekly course minimum, so if we can get 30                                                                
hours in that'd be a full week.  So, it looks like we're thinking                                                               
of something less than 180 hours to meet the statute."  He informed                                                             
everyone work would be done with the sponsor in order to reach an                                                               
agreement on a title change and increase the [course] hours while                                                               
keeping the hours below the threshold allowing a student loan.  The                                                             
chairman noted he thinks that is the sponsor's primary objective.                                                               
With that, Chairman Rokeberg indicated the committee would hold                                                                 
CSSB 51(L&C) over in order to allow the Senate to review the                                                                    
suggested changes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO questioned if the intent is to make the                                                                   
program qualify for the student loan program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG answered in the negative.  He indicated the                                                                   
intent is to increase the minimum requirements for licensure,                                                                   
mentioning the possible need for a grandfathering provision.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1165                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE informed the committee some of the comments he                                                             
received from people in Fairbanks were for a 30-hour application                                                                
and a 30-hour classroom program, for a total of 60 hours of                                                                     
training, as a bare minimum.  Others discussed a program of up to                                                               
100 hours.  Representative Brice noted that in review of other                                                                  
state statistics, up to 500 hours are required for this area.                                                                   
There are some serious associated health risks.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO asked if that was only referring to                                                                       
manicurists.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE answered in the affirmative.  He indicated 300                                                             
hours is required for a nail technician in Alabama, 350 hours for                                                               
a nail technician in Arizona, and 240 hours for a nail specialist                                                               
in Florida.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN ROKEBERG noted that would be the intention, to come to                                                                 
some agreement with the Senate.  The chairman identified the                                                                    
following issues to be addressed:  determining the level at which                                                               
existing businesses doing manicuring can continue, and increasing                                                               
the hours of the course which would require a title change in the                                                               
legislation.  Chairman Rokeberg restated that SB 51 would be held.                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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